If you’re reading this article, chances are you’ve been on the stage staring down the panel of judges that decides your fate from show to show. Many a show, I’ve walked through the locker room, whether I was competing or not that day and have heard, “I just don’t get it! I don’t know what those judges are looking for!” “You can’t tell me that I didn’t look better than that other guy! How could they not see that?!” “They don’t know what they’re talking about,” and a slue of other comments not fitting for NB and F. Nevertheless, the comments are out there and they are as common from show to show as a high carb meal moments after the awards are handed out.
If you’ve stood on the most competitive stages of the INBF, at one point or another you’ve stared down the barrel of one of the big guns of the INBF, Steve Downs. For many a year have I stared into Steve’s face as he meticulously analyzes each athlete from the judges’ table. I’ve watched him do this for a great many years and as one of the top judges of amateur and professional talent in the INBF and WNBF. Many a show have I stood on the stage and watched his eyes move about from athlete to athlete from either side of me to my own physique. Being a promoter as most have come to know me, I felt it was about time to answer these questions that the athletes have about, ‘what are these judges looking for’. I recently sat down with Steve to discuss these matters. This article will pinpoint the highlights to this conversation and look to annotate the truths about judging. So, from here on in, you can’t say you weren’t told!
When I tell you that Steve was open and straightforward with me about EVERY aspect to judging, I mean there were no holds barred and nothing to hide. It was a great conversation, fun, and gave me an insight into what goes on at the judges’ table. A man of integrity, Steve stands by each show, his decisions, the show outcomes, and his own moral platform as one and the same.
“I find it SPECTACULARLY insulting and offensive when someone questions my ethics with regard to our judging,” Steve exclaimed to me with ferocious tenacity. “It’s also odd that those people that seem to question our integrity seem to have NO integrity whatsoever. Organizations are a dime a dozen. As a {INBF or WNBF} judge, we feel and know that everything we do reflects on us personally,” Steve continued.
In my conversation with Steve, I got the impression that he always felt that the organizations that stand alone, don’t need to say that they are the best and don’t need to go around bashing. And if you didn’t think that Steve was a man of honor or high moral ethic ESPECIALLY when it comes to judging, I questioned him directly if he ever ‘held someone back that he didn’t like.’
“I don’t know how well you know me, but I think you do,” Steve began, “I tend to not dislike anyone. I have had problems with athletes in the past or know of some that may have disliked me for whatever their reason. But, it never changed an outcome with regard to judging or placed anyone ahead or behind someone that earned their place on stage. The organization’s mission and not my personal feelings is what prevails above all.”
With all the shows I’ve gone to, whether or not I was competing, competitors have posed many questions to me with regard to an athlete’s finish. I went down the list with Steve and he took the time we needed to answer my questions one by one. Let’s examine those most common questions:
How is one judged once that first quarter turn is made to the judges’ table?
“First impressions,” Steve began, “That first look is critical. I remember one athlete that would come out like a smoking gun and then fade from view as the
pre-judging wore on. Sometimes it’s nutrition…, sometimes over-preparing back stage. You must have lasting ability through the pre-judging. If you fade as the judging goes on, you’ll tend to fade in your presentation, which could hurt your final standing. You need stage presence and projection.”
When athletes are moved on stage, does this have meaning and/or bearing on where the athlete finishes?
“Depending on the size of the group, we may not begin to split the classes or move anyone until one full quarter turn, IF AT ALL. It is a process; Not for the audience, not for the athlete, but for the judges. Athletes are moved to make it easier to make the proper distinctions on scoring. Sometimes an athlete is moved for better lighting, comparison to another athlete, or because a judge has asked to see that athlete a bit better for a comparison with another. If there is not a need for a movement, we just won’t move people for the sake of moving them. You tend to try to put your better athletes at or near the middle to give ALL the judges a better vantage point in which to judge the better of the class. HOWEVER, an athlete may not belong in the middle but next to others near the middle of the class for comparison. Other times, its comparisons for 5th, 6th, or 7th.”
Steve continued, “Phil, understand, a good head judge is not making the decision. A good head judge is helping others to make a decision. The judges follow where I may put an athlete and I am constantly asking if the other judges are fine with the movement. I look at things I see as a judge AND as a head judge. I am only an expeditor for the other judges. MY three people in the middle MAY NOT NECESSARILY be YOUR three people. That’s why there is a panel. A good head judge communicates with the panel that he is happy with where he has moved everyone and if not, the moves are made; but only if it is necessary.
Sometimes, someone {on the judging panel} asks me to move someone and I will skip. A specific comparison may take place at times and it’s nice to see guys that will fight it out for 6th or 7th. That’s the fun to the sport. The larger the number the more expedient you should be with regard to judging. HOWEVER, the judging must be done and we will always make sure that it gets done right.”
Why are certain athletes moved and some athletes never moved?
“Movement has to do with expediting the judging process. Sometimes, the luck of the draw works out well in a small group. In a big group, there must be movement and not just for movement sake. Movement on stage is not an indication of anything. I might be moving people around you as this may be the difference between 4th and 5th or 5th and 6th. The job is to make the judging easier for the judges so all the athletes get a fair look.”
Does stage placement mean ANYTHING?
“To some extent. But again, the head judge does not make a decision for the other judges. The better athletes TEND to be grouped at the middle to give a better vantage point for the judges. The best athletes being all the way at one end or another will displace the judges’ ability to see. The best are usually grouped in the middle for the ‘best view’. Now,” Steve continued, “That does not mean the person in the middle is MY choice.”
I then hit Steve with one of my favorite questions - Rock, paper, scissors?
Symmetry, conditioning, muscularity…is there a “this beats that?”
“The written rule: We’ll always look for the total package. A lot of what’s written is what’s on stage. The judging for that day will even come down to as specific as that specific class. For figure, we’re looking for beauty. For bodybuilding, we’re still looking for a muscular body but conditioning is now important of late. A panel of 5 or 7 people means that there are 5 - 7 different views of the day’s standard. The trend right now is conditioning. In the 90’s, guys were huge and cut, without an emphasis of definition. However, nowadays, definition is carrying more of the decisions. BUT, people are NOT smaller. MASS ALONE does not carry it anymore. A SIDEBAR: IT IS NOT A DIETING CONTEST and ripped will not win the day! It is still bodybuilding, so though the trend seems to be leaning towards a more defined physique, we are still looking for quality muscle.”
Is there one clear cut judging criteria?
“CLASS FOR CLASS and GROUPS AT A TIME determines judging. Each group of bodybuilders we see is different which necessitates a re-visitation of the standards.”
(Now I’ve got to tell you, I was blown away by this statement! I felt it was such a broad-stroke of the judging brush that was at the same time very ‘tell-all’! Ultimately, it says that YES, there is a standard that the judges are using to judge us as bodybuilders while at the same time, a judging standard that is evolving at the table with each class that steps on stage. As each body is different within each class, so is each class unique unto itself within the show itself! FASCINATING!)
Steve continued to amaze me by moving along with concise truth and straightforward reason:
“Each judge has their own bias. The best BODYBUILDERS don’t necessarily prove to be the best judges. A good judge looks at the package: Posing, presence, muscular development, etc. There are guidelines. Experience on stage as a competitor helps but experience looking at competitors is also important.”
This next piece of the conversation is absolutely insightful! It is something I have seen from show to show and athlete to athlete (myself included). I have always focused on making a POSITIVE IMPRESSION upon those who are judging me and careful not to cross over the border of arrogance while looking confident- as there is a fine line! Follow the next part of the discussion carefully as this may help you do better just by working on WHO you are on stage! Just remember that you still must diet and train! This is a bodybuilding organization, not a popularity contest!
PROJECTION AND POSING!!!
Projection:
“How you project yourself is very important, whether you are in the middle, toward the middle, or off to the side. Athletes tend to fade if they get moved away from the middle. I’ve seen it a thousand times,” Steve said. “How you project to the judges is critical. You cannot teach it, but you can get someone to practice it. It comes with confidence and time.”
So how did Steve tell me to project confidence? PREPARE for the show! In your heart, KNOW you did what it takes to do well! PROJECTION matches preparation! This past fall, I competed in “The Mania” and “The Worlds” and I KNEW I brought the best package I’d ever shown to the judges. I KNEW that no matter whom I did or DID NOT beat, I brought my best that day. My projection of my self and my proud, confident communication of that told the day’s judges that I was ready for these shows!
Though I didn’t win, I acted in a lost manner of conduct – Honorably defeated by a better athlete and the sportsman in me prevailed. Leave your whimpering and crying at home. Every athlete has lost or won. There’s always a bigger fish. Enjoy the journey that is bodybuilding and not just the trophy itself!
(By the way, Steve HEAD judged NATURALMAINA and someone I know well judged THE WORLDS! No political pull I had put me as the winner! The better athlete proved to be the winner!)
Steve went on to add more commentary to an already enjoyable education of the judging process, “SO CRITICAL,” He began, “It is not what you do in the gym that is important, but what is on the stage. If an athlete poses better, presents himself better, it will MOST CERTAINLY affect an outcome,” he concluded.
SO, if you think you LOOKED better than the guy (or gal) that beat you, MAYBE you THINK you did, but the judges didn’t see that! Maybe you’re right when you say, “I don’t know what the judges are looking at?” Maybe they didn’t know! They only knew they saw a bodybuilder who beat you that was more polished because of preparation, poise, and stage presence. Remember, IT WILL affect an outcome! It could mean the difference between winning or losing or 4th and 5th places!
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!
Steve shared more life experience with me, “Less experienced bodybuilders tend to fade during the pre-judging process. How you feel dictates your stage presence. STAND OUT! LET the judges know you are there by being confident, but DON’T OVERDUE IT! Don’t be cocky or overconfident.”
I personally have seen it at shows. I’ve watched a COCKY athlete begin to crumble once Steve moved him away from the middle and then not necessarily regard him throughout the pre-judging. Why? Simple. On that day, there were better bodybuilders. Mind you, this gentleman didn’t think so and as his face dictated his disappointment or disdain, so did his stage presence. NOT GOOD! Stay confident and have fun. Worry about yourself, as you can’t change much else once you’re on stage!
“Here’s a latest rap,” Steve began, “A PHOTOGRAPHER: HOW does he make a good judge? Physique art!! What looks good through a lens tends to look good on stage. A good photographer will see with a ‘good eye’ what looks good! Moreover, he or she has {at times} a better ability to judge what they SEE as opposed to what they FEEL! Remember, it’s not a gym contest.
Now, there will always be SOMEONE not happy with the end result and I’m sorry to tell you, that’s just the way it goes! There is always going to be a complainer that thinks that they’ve been cheated and the judges “got it wrong”, or someone will feel that they got overlooked. Chances are, NO, they did not! And don’t try to tell me because I’ve got more 4th place trophies than anyone in the INBF! And don’t kid yourself, STEVE is the guy that’s put me there more often than not!
Certainly don’t try to call out the ‘politics’ word when it comes to judging. When I stand on stage, I (arguably) have the most clout on the stage. Being a promoter, I bring money to the INBF’s mission and scores of new athletes to the organization with every show I promote. NOT ONCE did this honor help me past an athlete that I was not worthy to beat! My “political standing” has not once helped me when it came to STEVE judging me, or ANY OTHER judge for that matter. So, be honest with yourself. If you didn’t win or end up where you felt you should have, chances are the only person left to blame is on the stage, not at the table.
Being an ambassador to the sport, I’d rather know that I beat someone on my own accord and not with ‘a little help from my friends’. It tells me each time I take the stage that my final standing was real and not manufactured. So, if I’M telling you that my standing in the INBF is not placing me above anyone, shouldn’t it tell you that where you have finished is most likely where you have legitimately finished? Wouldn’t you like to know that where you finished is “real”? If I’m a promoter telling you that my standing in the INBF didn’t propel me forward, should that not squash any claims of POLITICS? Think about it! The INBF is an organization of honor and we should all be proud to be part of something that special! Nothing fake! Isn’t that the way DRUG FREE is SUPPOSED to be?